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sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these things, but again, i would just suggest to you that in fact almost none of the killings in chicago, the deadliest place in america, almost none of those killings involved any kind of exotic weapon. they involved a system which is broken down, where the police have broken down, where the process is broken down. and so i would start and say, you know, the total number of use of those kind of devices you're talking about in the entire country is very, very small. and had there been an armed guard at that school, the odds are that by the second or third sh
sometimes it will make the nra uncomfortable. sometimes it will make people who are anti-gun uncomfortable, but we would be a healthier country if we could have a fact-based conversation. >> does it concern you, the high-volume magazine cartridges that are available, some of the military-style weapons that people can have? do you think that should be part of the discussion? is that on the table? do you think there should be some changes there? >> i think we should look at all these...
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why is the nra so strong? >> i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coless are very much pro-gun control. the middle of the country, even a lot of the the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially are very pro-gun rights. so we see in the last few days here, even senators, democratic senators like baucus from montana, franken, he is dated to endorse the assault weapons ban. this is a tough issue for politicians to deal with, particularly in the middle of the country. when that happens their reflex is often to vote no. >> roland, one thing that amazed me, was the favorability rating. it seemed to me, and being there in newtown, that something had changed in this country, that something had changed in every single one of us, to see what happened there happen. yet after newtown, 41% of americans view the organization favorably. that is unchanged from two years ago. that is unchanged. how is the nra not taking a hit? >> here's the deal. because people
why is the nra so strong? >> i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coless are very much pro-gun control. the middle of the country, even a lot of the the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially are very pro-gun rights. so we see in the last few days here, even senators, democratic senators like baucus from montana, franken, he is dated to endorse the assault weapons ban. this is a tough issue for politicians to deal with,...
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it was not the nra is so powerful. he paid tribute to the power of the american people to influence congress to say yes to some things that even congress is not inclined to say yes to. the only way we can change is if the american people demand it. and that doesn't mean from just certain parts of the country. we're going to need voices in those areas and those congressional districts where the tradition of gun ownership is strong to speak up. this will not happen unless the american people demand it. if parents and teachers, police officers and pastors, if hunters and sportsman if every american stands up and says enough, we suffered too much pain and care too much about our children to allow this to continue, then change will come. you know, in the letter that julia wrote me, she said i know that laws have to be passed by congress. but i beg you to try very hardly. julie, i will try very hard. but she's right. the most important changes we can make depend on congressional action. they need to bring these proposals up
it was not the nra is so powerful. he paid tribute to the power of the american people to influence congress to say yes to some things that even congress is not inclined to say yes to. the only way we can change is if the american people demand it. and that doesn't mean from just certain parts of the country. we're going to need voices in those areas and those congressional districts where the tradition of gun ownership is strong to speak up. this will not happen unless the american people...
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why is the nra so strong, aaron? >> well, i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coasts are very much pro gun control but the middle of the country, even a lot of the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially, are very pro-gun rights. so, you know, we see in the last few days here even senators -- democrat snorts like max baucus from montana, even al franken from minnesota hesitated at first to endorse the assault weapons ban. i think this is just a very tough issue for these politicians to deal with, particularly in the middle of the country and when that happens, their reflex often is to vote no. >> roland, one thing that amazed me in this, not just the membership, was the favorability rating. because it seemed to me, and being there in newtown, that something had changed in this country. that something had changed in every single one of us to see what happened there happen. yet after newtown, 41% of americans view the organization favorably. that is un
why is the nra so strong, aaron? >> well, i think that this is really such a regional issue in congress right now. the coasts are very much pro gun control but the middle of the country, even a lot of the democrats in the middle of the country and in the south especially, are very pro-gun rights. so, you know, we see in the last few days here even senators -- democrat snorts like max baucus from montana, even al franken from minnesota hesitated at first to endorse the assault weapons ban....
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endorsements, the nra's pac contributions and the nra's independent expenditures and found in fact you're pretty hard-pressed to find more than a handful of races where the nra's involvement made a difference. and they had a really bad year in november. they endorsed only seven senate candidates where they spent more than $100,000 in those races. six of those candidates lost. they spent more money i think on defeating barack obama because he was going to erase the second amendment from the constitution than they've ever spent to defeat anybody before, yet there he was today at the white house behind the podium talking about reasonable common sense gun laws. >> i thought the nra's advertisement lambasting the president for the security around his children was particularly offensive and a new low even by the leadership of that organization standards today. >> you know, we talked to nra members and we talked to gun deal. >> and we poll them. the truth is the average nra member has not been very happy with the performance that they've been seeing out of the nra's washington lobbyists lately.
endorsements, the nra's pac contributions and the nra's independent expenditures and found in fact you're pretty hard-pressed to find more than a handful of races where the nra's involvement made a difference. and they had a really bad year in november. they endorsed only seven senate candidates where they spent more than $100,000 in those races. six of those candidates lost. they spent more money i think on defeating barack obama because he was going to erase the second amendment from the...
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and wasn't to ask ye have to ta nra. the nra ad just came out, pretty controversial. i want to point out to our viewers, this ad is only running on the sportsmen cable network, about a third of the homes in the u.s. here is a clip. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids -- >> here is my question to you. you hear this voice talking about armed security in schools. interesting the nra is choosing to focus on that sliver of this whole argument versus taking on, you know, something much broader, that the president mentioned today. ie an assault weapons ban. you surprised by that? >> you know, i was initially surprised by that. what i can tell you is that, you know, time and cnn will have polling out later this afternoon, and one thing people might find is that arming guards in schools is more popular than i think a lot of people -- a lot of people i know who first reacted to that nra press conference a few weeks ago really appreciated. it is actually not an unpopular idea an
and wasn't to ask ye have to ta nra. the nra ad just came out, pretty controversial. i want to point out to our viewers, this ad is only running on the sportsmen cable network, about a third of the homes in the u.s. here is a clip. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids -- >> here is my question to you. you hear this voice talking about armed security in schools. interesting the nra is...
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they want to be counterweight for the nra. it will take a long time to do that. the public is willing to see some more gun restrictions like background checks, maybe a been a of high capacity magazines. but the reason the president and the vice president talk about the executive orders that can't do that much is because they understand how difficult it will be to get the legislation of any type passed through this congress. he can bolster the data collection and ban import of assault weapons but not much else he can do by himself. >> bret: look, the polls. recent poll, the quinnipiac poll if virginia. and they asked do you favor background checks at gun sho shows? 92% favor that. 7% oppose. this is registered virginia voters. obviously, virginia is a state that democrats passed election. and a pretty fair assessment. split. other question do you favor putting armed police officers in public schools? 66% favor. 29% oppose. actually when you broke it down it was 7 #% republicanssh -- 79% republicans and 58% democrats favored. nra supported position of putting armed
they want to be counterweight for the nra. it will take a long time to do that. the public is willing to see some more gun restrictions like background checks, maybe a been a of high capacity magazines. but the reason the president and the vice president talk about the executive orders that can't do that much is because they understand how difficult it will be to get the legislation of any type passed through this congress. he can bolster the data collection and ban import of assault weapons...
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a lot of times we're dealing with the far right on the nra. but what people have to understand, and this is what the american people are now facing in their heart of hearts, why do we need to have these when they're slaughtering our children? and by the way, not just these mass killings, but the killings that are going on every single day, we can do legislation to help certainly the american people to live in a safer country. i'm a nurse. i have always been a nurse. even in congress. and i will say to you, i could not save every single patient. i could not save every single person from gun violence, but by gosh, i'm going to do everything i can to cut down the amount of killings, and those that are injured and stay injured for the rest of their life, like my son, this is a life-changing event for people, and they have to understand that. >> let me ask very quickly, michael nutter, do you believe that you can win this argument and get an assault weapons ban reinstated? >> yes, i believe in the american public. americans are very, very smart. th
a lot of times we're dealing with the far right on the nra. but what people have to understand, and this is what the american people are now facing in their heart of hearts, why do we need to have these when they're slaughtering our children? and by the way, not just these mass killings, but the killings that are going on every single day, we can do legislation to help certainly the american people to live in a safer country. i'm a nurse. i have always been a nurse. even in congress. and i will...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats that you -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful -- >> mr. bloomberg's experimental anti-nra pac spending, it did focus on seven races in 2012. he didn't win all of them. but he did win four of those races. and it didn't take him a ton of money to do it. and as we reported last night, the nra's own spending was profoundly impotent in the last election. less than 1% of their multimillion-dollar expenditure
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats...
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the nra says it has gotten 100,000 new members. people do seem to be more active on this issue, but do you see any minds changing particularly in congress? >> i do. i think people are starting to talk. that's why you see even nra members who say i'm a gun holder and a ban on assault weapons and ban on magazines is something that's common sense that we have to think about. i think it is not reasonable to think it is easier to get a gun, talking about background checks, it's easier to get a gun then get a driver's license. that does not make sense in our modern day society. >> you don't think you'll have to take assault weapons off the table to get reform? >> i think what the administration is doing, we have to make sure we know and we have a complete background check with no loopholes. we've got to take the magazines that people have access to off the table. let's do that. that is something we can accomplish. i want to make sure we do something first that makes sense and make us all safer. taking away those magazines. me coming from
the nra says it has gotten 100,000 new members. people do seem to be more active on this issue, but do you see any minds changing particularly in congress? >> i do. i think people are starting to talk. that's why you see even nra members who say i'm a gun holder and a ban on assault weapons and ban on magazines is something that's common sense that we have to think about. i think it is not reasonable to think it is easier to get a gun, talking about background checks, it's easier to get a...
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the nra has refused to compromise. the vice president of the united states has conducted a wide ranging search for solutions. today president obama renewed his call for common sense gun measures. >> are there some sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in newtown can't walk into a school and gun dow a bunch of children in a shockingly rapid fashion? and surely we can do something about that. >> the president mentioned the need for stronger background checks. he wants to regulate high capacity clips. he is calling for a meaningful assault weapons ban. vice president joe biden, he met with him today, also with the house democrats to get their input. but other congressional members say they don't believe any gun control bill will pass. really? senators kelly ayotte, also chuck grassley and angus king all say they're just willing to listen. and representative phil gingrey of georgia agrees. now, these are the people who get to vote on any kind of gun measure. but they're just waiting
the nra has refused to compromise. the vice president of the united states has conducted a wide ranging search for solutions. today president obama renewed his call for common sense gun measures. >> are there some sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in newtown can't walk into a school and gun dow a bunch of children in a shockingly rapid fashion? and surely we can do something about that. >> the president mentioned the need for stronger...
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and nra to go through the motions of considering. the nra is a potent political force, it has money and members. and particularly in house districts, members need to worry about their nra rating and whether they are going to pardon the pun, be in the crosshairs in the next election. the white house needs to worry -- it's not going to get the nra on its side but it needs to figure out a way to neutralize its power. >> part of figuring that out is figuring where they are going to stake their claim. nra president also continued his hard line against an assault weapons ban. let me play for you what connecticut's governor dan malloy said on hard ball. >> the idea we can't do that just isn't true. in 1930s because machine guns fallen in the hands of criminals, we decided nobody should have a machine gun. guess what, people don't kill any more with machine guns. we're not talking about incidents with hand grenades. we can make practical decisions and pass practical laws. >> it does appear the white house is no longer making passing a new as
and nra to go through the motions of considering. the nra is a potent political force, it has money and members. and particularly in house districts, members need to worry about their nra rating and whether they are going to pardon the pun, be in the crosshairs in the next election. the white house needs to worry -- it's not going to get the nra on its side but it needs to figure out a way to neutralize its power. >> part of figuring that out is figuring where they are going to stake...
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you have seen that nra ad. what's your reaction? >> first of all, thomas, thank you so much for having me. that is way over the top. i was just taken aback when i heard that this morning. i have no idea who is making the decisions regarding this group. they really ought to take some assessments of themselves because i really believe that this goes extremely, just over the top as far as i'm concerned. >> the nra has a statement out based on the reaction that a lot of people have had, congressman, and they say whoever thinks the ad is about president obama's daughters are missing the point completely, or they're trying to change the subject. the ad is about keeping your children safe. sir, when you hear that and you've seen, you've heard the ad, does this just reveal how dirty this fight is going to get to bring any type of gun control reform through congress as opposed to through an executive order? >> unfortunately, i think that's an accurate assessment. i do believe that this is going to get really as we often say, down and dirty,
you have seen that nra ad. what's your reaction? >> first of all, thomas, thank you so much for having me. that is way over the top. i was just taken aback when i heard that this morning. i have no idea who is making the decisions regarding this group. they really ought to take some assessments of themselves because i really believe that this goes extremely, just over the top as far as i'm concerned. >> the nra has a statement out based on the reaction that a lot of people have had,...
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and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think right now there is a great deal of turmoil, for reasons that krystal discussed, because of the pressure that we've seen for gun control in this country. >> let's listen to a point that dick durbin made. >> we need the fire power and the ability to protect -- ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors and we need to fight back, do you agree with that point of view? >> if you look at why the founding fathers put it there, they lived under the tyranny, and didn't want to live under tyranny. >> chief johnson, you have heard it. the belief that the nra as a sec
and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think...
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we have talked a lot about the nra and how the nra has 4 million members. something like 47% of u.s. house holds report that they own a gun. that is a lot more than 4 million. the nra is concerned about rival gun rights organizations. the gun owners of america is an organization that claims to be more hard core and more solutist and it has 300,000 members. the nra represents a minority of gun owners in the united states and they are concerned about being outflanked in terms of the strength with which they defend gun rights. the truth is there are a ton of gun owners. when the nra goes off and has an ad of that nature they are not necessarily representing real gun owners. they are representing a much smaller group and they are concerned about it being seen as too moderate. >> the president of the nra defended the ad. i want to play his defense before you jump in here. >> the fact of the matter is that the schools in washington that are attended by the elites, not just the president's daughters but the sons and daughters of others are protected by armed secur
we have talked a lot about the nra and how the nra has 4 million members. something like 47% of u.s. house holds report that they own a gun. that is a lot more than 4 million. the nra is concerned about rival gun rights organizations. the gun owners of america is an organization that claims to be more hard core and more solutist and it has 300,000 members. the nra represents a minority of gun owners in the united states and they are concerned about being outflanked in terms of the strength with...
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it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do nothing. they want to instill a kind of fatalism that means that we can't do anything to solve our problems. whether we're talking about guns we're talking about keeping weapons and ammunition out of the hands of bad people. now, this is a problem that society deals with all the time. we try to distinguish bad people from good people. we try to distinguish bad situations from good situations. i don't think our existing laws go far enough in doing that. i think it's obvious they are not working because they haven't prevented the
it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do...
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. >> and john walsh of america's most wanted said nra has held congress hostage for years. plus congressman and nra point person who says this. >> there's nothing more critical to our nation's wellbeing than our children's safety. >> why he thinks the the way to stop shootings is to put armed guns outside every school in america. >> and why is rob lowe taking an assault against assault weapons? >> i like guns and i don't know what to do with an assault weapon. i don't know why i would want one. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >> good evening. you're looking live at the white house where in a matter of hours, vice president joe biden is expected to hand president obama his recommendations to stop gun violence in america. the parents who lost children one month ago in newtown are speaking out. >> we want to bring about changes that will stop a tragedy such as this from happening to any community ever again. because this can happen in any community. your community. it has already happened in tucson, littletown, aurora and blacksburg. it has happened in our schools, theaters
. >> and john walsh of america's most wanted said nra has held congress hostage for years. plus congressman and nra point person who says this. >> there's nothing more critical to our nation's wellbeing than our children's safety. >> why he thinks the the way to stop shootings is to put armed guns outside every school in america. >> and why is rob lowe taking an assault against assault weapons? >> i like guns and i don't know what to do with an assault weapon. i...
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i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not about this hard-line political organization. i think the data from gun manufacturers really makes a point that gun owners really need a different organization. >> thank you both for your time this evening. and don't forget to tune into melissa harris-perry saturdays and sundays at 10 a.m. here on msnbc. >>> coming up, president obama's big step towardss -- plus, remember when todd legitimate rape akin said that. what are these people thinking? i guess they're not. >>> and should president obama be on mt. rushmore? it is a question getting a lot of attenti
i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not...
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the nra does have a lot of supporters. keane made the point when the president gets on the bully pull pits, he can be effective. people took it right here, right now, here is what i see. the white house said we are going to go out and really pitch this, so we will -- we will fee they do right now, you see the same schisms of what you have there in terms of why an assault weapons ban according to, certainly the nra, won't work. >> let me just ask you, because the president pretty busy also doing cabinet building. the latest nominee is jack lew and i am wondering how is that one really being received? >> well, depends on -- i think we have to take sort of all -- the 50,000-foot view from these -- for these cabinet nominees that the president has. jack lew has been around a lot. he has a very long resume, particularly on the fiscal side of public service. and i don't think he is going to have much of a fight. i think when it gets to a vote, jack lew becomes the next treasury secretary. ly get a rough going over by republicans
the nra does have a lot of supporters. keane made the point when the president gets on the bully pull pits, he can be effective. people took it right here, right now, here is what i see. the white house said we are going to go out and really pitch this, so we will -- we will fee they do right now, you see the same schisms of what you have there in terms of why an assault weapons ban according to, certainly the nra, won't work. >> let me just ask you, because the president pretty busy also...
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no one should be afraid of the nra. if you look at their electoral record, it's pretty pathetic when niebt% of incumbents got re-elected, only 80% of the people they supported got re-elected. they're not the electoral force members of congress think they are, and they're fundamentally on the wrong side of the debate. the stuff they're putting out, like the commercial they released yesterday against president obama, is almost like a saturday night live parody of themselves and the if they're going to continue to conduct themselves this way, members of congress are going to separate from them. >> are you dispirited about the rumbles that the president can't push through an assault weapons ban. no one can tell them the power has no place on civilian streets or in civilian hands, and almost already, i'm seeing the white flags of surrender in washington. who is going to show some kind of political leadership? >> yeah, you know, i have talked to so many of these parents and families over the last few weeks. and one father, i
no one should be afraid of the nra. if you look at their electoral record, it's pretty pathetic when niebt% of incumbents got re-elected, only 80% of the people they supported got re-elected. they're not the electoral force members of congress think they are, and they're fundamentally on the wrong side of the debate. the stuff they're putting out, like the commercial they released yesterday against president obama, is almost like a saturday night live parody of themselves and the if they're...
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. >> his office sent it to the nra? then less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, on a day that had been proclaimed a national day of mourning for police killed in the line of duty, less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, the nra took out a national newspaper ad defending a fund-raising letter that they had just sent which called federal law enforcement personnel jackbooted thugs. this is less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing. president george h.w. bush resigned his life membership in the nra in protest. ultimately, even after they first defended it, the nra was forced to apologize for the "jackbooted thugs" thing. and ultimately, old steve stockman did get voted out of office in texas in 1996. he'd only served one term in the house. but you know what happened to steve stockman in the long run? in this past election in 2012, the one we just had, steve stockman got voted back into office. texas decided to send him back. and then yeah, he was the guy who even before president obama said wh
. >> his office sent it to the nra? then less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, on a day that had been proclaimed a national day of mourning for police killed in the line of duty, less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, the nra took out a national newspaper ad defending a fund-raising letter that they had just sent which called federal law enforcement personnel jackbooted thugs. this is less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing. president george h.w. bush...
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the nra met it's worst nightmare today and his name is joe biden. >> the nra is a friend of freedom. >> i want to thank the national rifle association. >> they do a terrific job. >> we have the craziest people. >> too much weaponry in all the wrong hands. >> but there are also thing that is we know. >> he has a lot of friends on the hill. >> the vice president's task force powwow. >> there is no room. >> not to give an inch of ground. >> there is no room for compromise. >> we have another school shooting in taft, california at the same moment the nra is at the white house. >> they want chain jooth it is simple. >> more guns are not the answer. >> no one hunts with an assault rifle. >> the newtown tragedy, tucson and the movie theater massacres. >> is part of what sets america apart from the rest of the world. >> he called for armed guards ip scho in schools. >> call me crazy, you sir, are [ bleep ] in the head. >> as vice president joe biden was conducting a meeting at the white house today, a 16-year-old student was shot today when a student walked into the school and started firing
the nra met it's worst nightmare today and his name is joe biden. >> the nra is a friend of freedom. >> i want to thank the national rifle association. >> they do a terrific job. >> we have the craziest people. >> too much weaponry in all the wrong hands. >> but there are also thing that is we know. >> he has a lot of friends on the hill. >> the vice president's task force powwow. >> there is no room. >> not to give an inch of ground....
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obviously a big day tomorrow with joe biden meeting with the nra and wal-mart and others. in the end, this has to get through congress and it also could be affected by executive order by the president and figh facing a sanction by the supreme court. >> there has not been much discussion about the challenge that has almost been inevitable. recently, a couple of years ago the supreme court has really emphasized that the lawful possession of fire arms is something that our constitution allows and protects. and it protects it with very clear language. >> it is a legal quagmire. there is no other word i can use for this. for a long time. the in interpretation for the second amendment not applying for an individual and that is now being used firmly as their right to have any arms that they like. >> you have been talking about how the conservative movement in this country has deregulated fire arms in congress and it is truen the courts true. that is true. what guns are covered is unclear. the hellar case is about handguns in the home. the again is what about larger weapons. what
obviously a big day tomorrow with joe biden meeting with the nra and wal-mart and others. in the end, this has to get through congress and it also could be affected by executive order by the president and figh facing a sanction by the supreme court. >> there has not been much discussion about the challenge that has almost been inevitable. recently, a couple of years ago the supreme court has really emphasized that the lawful possession of fire arms is something that our constitution...
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certainly it's not the nra. these senators should not fear the national rifle association. the nra didn't affect any races in the last election cycle and it probably won't do it the next time around. now, if senate democrats cannot get over the hump of losing their a rating from the national rifle association, folks, this gun legislation, it isn't going to go anywhere. senator al franken of minnesota is another democratic lawmaker who was somewhat puzzling in the last 24 hours who decided to clarify his position. he says, "i co-sponsored legislation to ban large clips like those used in so many mass shootings," he said in a statement. "i also support the principle that we should reinstate a ban on assault weapons. and i will carefully review any proposal to do that." in principle. can we get some straight talk? because that in principle kind of thing leaves a little wiggle room that maybe you might not do it, al. there are other senate democrats ready to vote right now. there are multiple democrats sponsoring their own legislation. a background check bill from senator chuck
certainly it's not the nra. these senators should not fear the national rifle association. the nra didn't affect any races in the last election cycle and it probably won't do it the next time around. now, if senate democrats cannot get over the hump of losing their a rating from the national rifle association, folks, this gun legislation, it isn't going to go anywhere. senator al franken of minnesota is another democratic lawmaker who was somewhat puzzling in the last 24 hours who decided to...
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when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and again trying to get the people most hopped up about it and think that one step is going to lead to another step is going to lead to rhetoric, like which is not really very temperate. it makes me feel like -- do you mean we shornt even discuss this, wait until the bodies pile a little bit higher? >> i don't know at what point. >> human beings have been stacked like hardwood, and theaters and schools have been turned into kill zones. we are having a moment nationally, locally, everywhere. if this isn't a good time and a right time to talk about both the value and the limits of the second amendment, i d
when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and...
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the nra is going to try to do that. >> that was when not croupier -- that was one lapierre of the nra. your response? >> as i said before, one of the few statements from the nra that i do suggest, that i do agree with, but the bad thing is we don't have the money in this country to do it. the bad part is also that we have these people now that have opinions on what happens in school, strictly by looking at numbers, never looking at individual instances. when you have these people that criticize law-enforcement in schools, my question to them is, have you ever worked in a school? i was an sro commander and was there for 15 years. i have countless stories of how i helped people. i know sro's all around the country that work hard every day and it takes a certain kind of individual. you cannot just have this idea of this macho cop walking in the school halls and arresting people for swearing or horsing around with their friends. that is just not the reality. the reality is, incidents happened in schools. police are called for one reason or another by the school administrator. sometimes ac
the nra is going to try to do that. >> that was when not croupier -- that was one lapierre of the nra. your response? >> as i said before, one of the few statements from the nra that i do suggest, that i do agree with, but the bad thing is we don't have the money in this country to do it. the bad part is also that we have these people now that have opinions on what happens in school, strictly by looking at numbers, never looking at individual instances. when you have these people...
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you know the nra leadership at times defers from the nra membership. the truth is, there are nra members who are willing to maybe reasonable concessions. >> name one republican member of congress who is for any form of gun control today. >> some of the few from remaining from the northeast. >> and mark kirk and susan collins. you can go through the list flt by the way. this is not a republican and democratic issue. >> john boehner, having been humiliated in this situation is going to have to find a situation in which he would allow a vote in the house. and his own majority is impossible to imagine that happening. >> what do you think is going to happen? >> nothing. >> the obama administration is going to tee it up and bring it to 2014. i think they do believe that the politics of this have shifted enough that they can make some republicans pay a price for not being willing to hold a vote. >> the democrats not mauled at the polls afterwards and a lot of people remember that and you are right, a lot of democrats don't want to touch this issue either. but
you know the nra leadership at times defers from the nra membership. the truth is, there are nra members who are willing to maybe reasonable concessions. >> name one republican member of congress who is for any form of gun control today. >> some of the few from remaining from the northeast. >> and mark kirk and susan collins. you can go through the list flt by the way. this is not a republican and democratic issue. >> john boehner, having been humiliated in this...
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why are republicans so afraid of the nra? do they work for the nra or the american people? >> well, generally believe it or not, a lot of republicans are americans. and what they would really like us to do something that works: for example, how many of these horrible crimes that we've seen, aurora, newtown, how many of those crimes are committed at gun shows? none. >> columbine. >> those guns were bought at gun shows. >> those were kids. those were kids who have broken a ton of laws anyway. we have a ton of laws to get those things off the books already. wolf, the vast majority, nearly all of them are stolen. criminals generally don't like to do a lot of paperwork. so promising the american people a real solution, for example, the high-capacity magazine. that sounds great. and if you love mayor bloomberg in new york and you think that banning 32-ounce sodas is going to make american people skinnier, because you believe, what, they are never going to figure out they could buy two 16-ounce sodas? you are going to love the high-capacity ban. >> why? >> are you saying that a cr
why are republicans so afraid of the nra? do they work for the nra or the american people? >> well, generally believe it or not, a lot of republicans are americans. and what they would really like us to do something that works: for example, how many of these horrible crimes that we've seen, aurora, newtown, how many of those crimes are committed at gun shows? none. >> columbine. >> those guns were bought at gun shows. >> those were kids. those were kids who have broken a...
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he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given that issue over to them because they have lobbyists they pay money. in the end, the people determine the outcome. and it's wrong, and it's racist and it's bigoted to say that guns are quintessentially american. they may represent a part of america, but my grandparents who came over from poland and live in brooklyn, new york, are just as much americans, people who came over from ireland, people who came over from italy, we're just as much americans. we live on the coast and we have a right to define the america we want to live in and we have the obligation to win politically, to vote for people to put gun control as a high
he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given...
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these politicians have been cowered by the nra and the gun lobby for too long. it is time they stood up and said enough. >> let's talk about the balx jones interview. you're english and i'm australian. we look at it from an outsider's perspective and some people are shocked by what they see. you have say jones' rant about despots taking away guns back fired. he says i think he meaning you handled him perfectly, sat back and let alex make his own noose. i thought the same thing when i was watching the interview. did you feel that it did back fire on him? >> honestly i possibly have put on air. alex jones represents a very extreme -- very influential, very vocal gun lobby in america. he rants like this every day to millions of americans, most of them who believes what he says. this is a guy who believes president bush, his administration, ordered the 9/11 disaster, for example. you're talking with people who are scared in their thought process. and they believe that any government that wants any form of gun control after the massacres is attacking the second amend
these politicians have been cowered by the nra and the gun lobby for too long. it is time they stood up and said enough. >> let's talk about the balx jones interview. you're english and i'm australian. we look at it from an outsider's perspective and some people are shocked by what they see. you have say jones' rant about despots taking away guns back fired. he says i think he meaning you handled him perfectly, sat back and let alex make his own noose. i thought the same thing when i was...